One of the nice things about visiting England is that I usually get to see my friend Chris. I know him through my wife, who knew him when they were growing up in Norwich; he has London roots, however, and now he lives in Essex. Anyway, he knows more about music than anyone I have ever met. And unlike me, he seems to have the energy and attention span to keep up with new stuff. When the two of us start talking about music, practically no one we know can even pretend to participate, even though they like a lot of the same stuff-- the conversations require a certain amount of stamina, if not monomania. The other night at the Light Bar in Shoreditch we gave up the pretense of a collective social gathering. Or rather, everyone else did: we were essentially banished to our own table.
The curious thing is, though we grew up on different continents and were unaware of each other's existence, somehow we ended up being interested in pretty much precisely the same things. Like many kids, we both grew up seeing the world, and in a way our own questions, frustrations, and confusion about what life is about, how things are and how things ought to be, through the prism of the contents of our own individualistic, deliberately idiosyncratic record collections. (My source for pop esoterica was chiefly the import section of the Tower Records on Columbus in San Francisco, to which I gravitated because the people who tended to stand in this section flipping through the records tended to look cool and impressive and freaky. I would wait till they were finished and had moved on, because they scared me just a bit, and then I would quickly snatch and purchase random things I'd never heard of just because I liked the song titles and because they looked obscure. In at least a couple of cases-- the TVPs and the Soft Boys-- this led to lifelong obsessions.)
One thing comes up continually in such discussions: an incidental, yet important, part of that whole experience inevitably involves misunderstanding certain things about the music and musicians themselves. Some of the misunderstandings are based on things you read or heard somewhere; some begin life as reasonable inferences; and some you just make up because they seem interesting. Such misunderstandings contribute to a sort of personal mythology that in the end reflects a kind of truth about oneself, even if many of the illustrative details turn out to have been quite wrong. I don't believe I would have figured that out in anything like the same way without all my conversations with Chris. We really seem to have had pretty much the same record collection, and to have derived similar, though not always identical, inferences, epiphanies, lessons, and what not from them, to have stumbled upon some of the same truths about some things through some of the same misinterpretations about something else. The differences are instructive, the similarities downright uncanny. In other words, what we have here is an Amercan Anglophile and a British America-phile: two people separated by a common obsession with the Television Personalities.
We got together a couple of times in London this time, at the Light Bar, as I said, and at the Lamb and Flag near Covent Garden. As always, we talked a bit about current state of science on the subject of Dan Treacy, the TVPs' singer/songwriter/genius who had such a big, unlikely influence in forming our personalities and outlooks on life. As kids, we only knew him through his recorded music, generously augmented by our own romantic imaginations. (I think Chris saw the TVPs a few times in later life, though I never have; and he swears he saw him in street person mode at a London park a few years ago near the beginning of his famous disappearance, the incident that led to my own, oft-maligned song "I Don't Know where Dan Treacy Lives.") But as I've written before, knowing a person through his music isn't the same as knowing the real guy, even though it often feels as though there's no difference. As time went on, and as this or that plain fact about our hero or a newish interpretation of this or that song emerged which arguably contradicted or undercut the mythology, each was an occasion for self-examination. A new avenue of appreciation opened up, which cut across (or perhaps rather, ran concurrently with) all the others: the one which charts and puzzles over the evolution of your own understanding. Thus, a gradual transition from a naive to a more complicated understanding of what music ("art") "does." And for some reason, you can end up loving and appreciating the music just as much as or even more than before.
I've always felt that this background process is at least as important as what's in the foreground. I doubt, however, that I'd have arrived at quite the same understanding of it if I hadn't been able to compare notes periodically with a test subject other than myself. The other day, at the Lamb and Flag, the Other Test Subject (I admit-- it's a small sample) said between sips of Guiness what I've been trying to get at above much more clearly and simply: "the stuff you got wrong, yeah, is almost more important in a way, because that's the part that comes from you." And I think that is so right.
Is Music Appreciation always so radically subjective? I suppose at the level of obsession/fanaticism it usually is, even when you affect a kind of critical distance. It's impossible to disentangle the thread of "what it really sounds like" and the thread of "what it really means," from the thread of your experience of listening through the years. After that Bob Mould show, I put on New Day Rising for the first time in quite awhile. I paused briefly to marvel at how the New Day Rising that I remember, the one that always plays in my consciousness, "sounds" quite different from the poorly-recorded, relatively amateurish, bass-less, out of control actual recording. That lasted only a split second, though, as my mind immediately and automatically set to work filling in all the "missing" elements; the New Day Rising of the mind is far more powerful than anything that can come out of a speaker. I'm "hearing" it-- the "head version"-- now, in fact, and it's glorious. It's the Real New Day Rising. It can beat up your New Day Rising any day.
If I had never heard the Television Personalities before, how would I react if someone handed me And Don't the Kids Just Love It, say, and said "you've got to listen to this, it's brilliant"? I know from experience that there are those who, in this situation, turn out to be absolutely immune to this record's charm. (And I'd be less than honest if I failed to note that this itself plays a small part in its appeal, then as now.) They go swiftly from "okay, let's hear this dude you're always blathering on and on about" to "are you out of your mind? Take it off! Take it off! Quickly!" They do. Philistines.
Well, I'd like to think that even as an alleged adult I would recognize, upon hearing "Silly Girl," "Smashing Time," "Stranger to Myself," "This Angry Silence," or even "Where's Bill Grundy Now?" or "Little Woody Allen," that this was some of the most direct, sensitive, honest, engaging, sad, lovely, most "human" music I'd ever heard. But there's no way of knowing, as it is utterly impossible to imagine what I should be like as a person who had never heard these songs as a kid. The long-term experience of listening and thinking and mythologizing far outweighs the immediate experience of listening alone. It's all bound up in the initial experience of hearing it as teenager, being shocked at how much more "relatable" and less affected it was than the "normal" music all my peers liked, thinking something along the banal lines of "wow, this guy 'gets it' and I'm the only one who knows" and so on, as the initial reaction developed and was made complicated over the years. What it "really" sounds like is a relatively minor part, whether or not I pretend otherwise. When it comes to stuff I love, I'm a great Appreciator, and not much of a Critic. I imagine that goes for anyone who has, for his own acknowledged or unacknowledged personal reasons, fetishized an obscure, quirky, offbeat writer or musician and made the appreciation into a sort of personal totem. (Most fervent pop music fans, in other words.)
The weird thing is that, though I didn't plan it that way, I suppose in a minor way I'm kind of one of those guys myself, i.e., an obscure, quirky, offbeat, sensitive, gormless, stubborn, self-absorbed, unlikely small-time pretend rock star with a cult following (many of the adherents of which seem primarily to value the obscurity itself), liable to slip off the deep end at any time. Lord knows I have perpetrated in public a great many aesthetic and sonic crimes, for which, in certain circles, I am forgiven all too easily for reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with anything I have done or have intended to do. "My people" must fill in all my blanks, and make their own silent, well-needed corrections, hear in their heads their own, augmented, enhanced, annotated Our Bodies Our Selves, as I do with the recordings of those among whose "people" I am. I can think of no other explanation for the indulgence so many kind well-wishers have shown towards some of the truly awful things for which I have, on occasion, been responsible. (Thanks very much, by the way.) Well, as everyone always says at one time or another: my music is really quite a bit better than it sounds. So, I guess, it goes.
Those conversations were only a few days ago, but now I'm holed up in Deepest Darkest Norfolk (about which more later perhaps) and they seem extremely far away in time and distance. London's still bustling, smoking, and throbbing, Dan Treacy's still in it somewhere, I've still got the album to fret about, but I'm in another world altogether getting swamped by countryside and there's more to life than rock, so bye now.
Holy flipping '45s, Batman. This is a very, very nice post. You cut very close to some of the experiences I have had, and articulate a few things I have long-felt but not formulated into words.
I can either respond with a mammoth point by point response, or keep it super-simple and option B is mandatory under current circumstances.
This: "incidental, yet important, part of that whole experience inevitably involves misunderstanding certain things about the music and musicians themselves." Right, the myth you make up in your head, woven into a lot of your personal experiences with the music and the times and places and people and subjective mental and emotional states you associate with it, then, that all looked back and revisited and embellished in one's memory, i.e., this: "the New Day Rising of the mind is far more powerful than anything that can come out of a speaker. I'm "hearing" it-- the "head version"-- now, in fact, and it's glorious. It's the Real New Day Rising." Weirder yet, as you know, the record that you, or Bob Mould, or anybody heard in HIS head is only barely approximated by the recording -- so, yeah, YOUR "New Day Rising" (or my Ramones Leave Home or Come Out, Come Out or even the great lost Neighborhoods record circa 1982 that never was) may very well BE the real version -- or closer to it than anything that will ever come out of anybody's speakers. This: "The long-term experience of listening and thinking and mythologizing far outweighs the immediate experience of listening alone." Yes, yes, yes, but further, these long-term experiences ARE the experience of listening, or are a type of listening, or a continuation of listening, to something which really hits home, to some central part of who and what you are (who the Hell knows why? You know it when you hear it), it is a a re-listening, internally, on that speaker in your head, and then weaving that listening into everything else knocking around in there.
Whoa. That's starting to get mammoth.
Please keep up this meditative stuff on music you have been doing lately. You are on a roll. It's good stuff.
Just this morning, walking the girl who lives a couple doors over to her car, I told her I think I will look into that faith healing religion today, maybe volunteer for a charity (purely for selfserving reasons), or possibly even tie a hanky to a stick, wrap some fish sticks in foil and wander off. Really, I wanted to do anything to gain somekind of self awarness Yes, it was a good post. A life affirming post almost.
I've alienated whole sets of friends talking endlessly about music, in the same context as described in your post, with one friend in particular. While I remain friendless at least I'm feeling something. Though the fish stick hobo-ism existence sounds nice, don't it?
And on a highly unoffensive note, that afforementioned girl who lives a couple doors down finally fell into my trap and asked, "Who's this Mr. T Experience you're always going on about?" I just wish she could have heard the version of "Dust Bin of History" that exists in my head. She tought it was great. But that head-version of mine is really something.
Posted by: Mike Mc at September 4, 2003 04:26 PMhow odd. I live in Norwich... if you like, drop me an e-mail or something. if you're still in Norwich, that is.
i'd like to meet an international punk rock star.
Posted by: Mark Everclear at September 6, 2003 01:36 AMYeah, can't begin to imagine who I'd have become, had I not stumbled onto certain gifted children visiting from london, more than half a lifetime ago. Can't imagine who I'd have become if anything else wasn't the way it was, either.
Special things, as I keep growing, seem to grow with me: the act of cherishing being a dynamic one, not a fixing in time but a mirroring from present to past and back again...a luminosity amplified as the distances increase.
(I wonder, does nostalgia contain the same impulse, but stunted?)
(I wonder, does this happen with other forms of attachment, not just cherishing, but, say, resenting...?)
When occupied with aesthetics, it is good to contemplate another's creation. To gaze from self to object- hey, is somebody peeking though that object? - and back again. When otherwise occupied, I often catch others' creations come peeking through me.
But it is reassuring, isn't it, to know that certain very special personalities are still growing with or without the intervention of one's own consciousness? Knowing this makes me very, very happy.
I think I'll go weep for awhile - these words are just not cutting it.
I was so incredibly certain that I wasn't the only one buying albums by cover art and song titles. Just mostly in second hand shops, after their original owners had died and left a huge cache of like-minded albums in a cardboard box marked "Kitchen things." I was also incredibly certain that I may have some minor issues seeing that most people I know have wrestling posters or the cast of ER on their wall, while I'm proudly displaying TVP, Bikini Kill, Mudhoney, Pleasure Forver, and some of the other lesser-knowns. Guess I'm just glad to know that someone else indulges in the almost sadistic behavior of buying albums you've never heard and playing them for people you know will hate them.
Posted by: ParadoxalHumanity at October 29, 2004 05:12 PM